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Robert Pearlman
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Estée Lauder paying NASA for skincare photoshoot on space station

A high-profile cosmetics company is providing a new look for NASA by using the International Space Station to market its products.

Estée Lauder is paying NASA to launch bottles of its nighttime skincare serum so they can be photographed aboard the International Space Station. The company is using the flight of its Advanced Night Repair Synchronized Multi-Recovery Complex to create content for its social media channels, as well as deliver back a unique flown-in-space artifact that Estée Lauder intends to auction for charity.

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posted 09-24-2020 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceCadet1983   Click Here to Email SpaceCadet1983     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(Groan)

Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-24-2020 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I get that. Truth to be told, Estée Lauder is not the company I would have guessed would be among the first to pay NASA to use the space station for a marketing photoshoot.

But maybe that is the point: by opening up the opportunity, companies that you would never think be interested in flying products to space will step forward and lead the way.

As for Estée Lauder, I will be curious to see what their planned charity auction of a flown-in-space bottle commands.

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It's sad to see space travel becoming so commercialized in recent years. But that's the inevitable result of exploration and progress. It's always the same story. We begin with brave explorers charting unknown regions. This is swiftly followed by the wealthy and powerful moving in and claiming ownership. And then over the course of decades, it's slowly ransacked for profit until it's become mundane and uninteresting. Mere decades after Lindbergh's brave flight over the Atlantic, thousands of everyday people now make the same voyage daily, leafing through magazines and idly wondering when the snack cart will be coming by.

I recently read a book about the aftermath of the Lewis and Clark expeditions. For thousands of years, the Native Americans had kept the land pristine and whole. Their communities weren't affected by ownership or greed, and they didn't think of their environment in terms of financial resources. The concept of "owning" a mountain or a forest was completely foreign to them. The Lewis and Clark company were welcomed by the Nez Perce tribe in what became Washington state, because they came as explorers, not exploiters. But once Lewis and Clark had returned with their findings, the land was quickly overrun by fur trappers, logging companies, gold miners, and U.S. government officials, all seeking wealth and expansion.

The chief of the Nez Perce, Joseph, warned the incoming people that as long as they saw this fertile region in terms of profit, devastation would follow. The key to their survival had been to respect the land as something more valuable than any amount of money. But he was ignored, and eventually his tribe was driven out of the land, after the U.S. government bought the entire region from a neighboring tribe. Of this, Joseph said, "Suppose a white man should come to me and say, 'Joseph, I like your horses. I want to buy them.' I say to him, 'No, my horses suit me; I will not sell them.' Then he goes to my neighbor and says, 'Pay me money, and I will sell you Joseph's horses.' The white man returns to me and says, 'Joseph, I have bought your horses and you must let me have them.' If we sold our lands to the government, this is the way they bought them." But Joseph and the others were forced into reservations, so that the business leaders of America could move in. And all of Joseph's warnings came true. The American frontier is now just a filthy network of highways, office buildings, and shopping malls, like everything else.

And space is quickly becoming the same way. Less than a century ago, it belonged to no one. About 60 years ago, a few brave explorers ventured up for the first time. And just a few decades later, it's become the playground (and gold mine) of the wealthy and powerful. Governments are increasing their military presence in space on a constant basis. Billionaires are exploiting it for fame, fortune, and corporate dominance. And every day, it fills up with more trash. In a few decades, the night sky will have transformed entirely. The grandeur of the universe will be overwhelmed by the lights of hundreds of thousands of satellites, like headlights at rush hour.

I suppose we should consider ourselves lucky that for the last 50 years, space travel has been prohibitively expensive enough to keep most people out. But the era of exploration is ending, and the next decades will usher in the age of commerce and tourism. The majesty of space travel will be snuffed out, in the same way that the majesty of air travel was snuffed out in the last century.

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Everything you just wrote would be true if space exploration ended in low Earth orbit.

There is no more exploring to be done in low Earth orbit (which, to be clear, is the not the same thing as saying there is no more to be learned in Earth orbit). We generally know how to get there, how to stay there (at least for relatively brief stays) and how to return home. Exploration has given way to utilization, which can be a good thing, depending on your perspective.

But the moon? Mars? The moons of Mars? The moons of Jupiter and Saturn? Those have barely been explored and are ripe for investigation by humans, where appropriate, and robotic probes.

For NASA and other space agencies to pursue those exploration missions, they first need to free up the funds they have tied up in low Earth orbit. They still need resources in low Earth orbit, but they no longer need to be the operators. That is where commercialization can play a valuable role. If a business case can be made for operating orbital platforms, then federal funds can be refocused on exploration again.

So I would suggest that Estée Lauder is not a threat to the frontier, but it may be the start of the foundation from where it can be reached.

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posted 09-24-2020 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oly   Click Here to Email oly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hbw60:
It's sad to see space travel becoming so commercialized in recent years.
The whole point of the US administration's directive to commercialize space is to bring new ideas, players, and cash into space operations.

Ironically, a commercial product photoshoot to produce an image such as this will require a lot of post processing and manipulation (Photoshopping) to remove scratches and other marks from the ISS hardware (including the window protective panes), and touching up the product packaging to make it look advertising ready. So it's like applying makeup to cosmetics.

This example, shown with the same lighting on each bottle, would be easily achieved on Earth, take up less of the crew's time and space, and the fees applied to fly, stage, and shoot a product image would have more impact here on Earth.

The steps necessary to get such a product spaceflight ready would probably include using an empty container, as the risk of leakage and contamination would be high. It is an interesting branding exercise.

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Originally posted by oly:
...to make it look advertising ready.
Which may be why Estée Lauder is only using the photos and video for social media. They are not planning print ads or television commercials.

To your last point, per Estée Lauder and NASA, the bottles being launched contain the same serum as you would find in the store.

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quote:
Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
...Estée Lauder is not a threat to the frontier, but it may be the start of the foundation from where it can be reached.
You're absolutely correct, Robert. I just wish the American public cared enough about space exploration to seriously fund it. At the height of the Apollo program, if one were to ask an astronaut to predict what astronauts would be doing in 50 years, I don't think any of them would have guessed that the answer would include producing in-flight skincare advertisements to pay the bills.

And I wish NASA had made better financial decisions in the early stages of developing the Shuttle/ISS. When I read Walt Cunningham's book "The All-American Boys," I was shocked to see some of the details, particularly regarding the way Russia has mismanaged their share of the ISS funding and exploited the US. Those decisions were made decades ago, and they're still hurting the program today.

So I don't automatically hate this new Estee Lauder campaign. I'm far, far more worried about the negative impact of companies like SpaceX. It's just sad to live in a society where trillions of tax dollars are thrown away every year on bad decisions, while NASA literally has to rent out the ISS to stay afloat.

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Just to be clear: Estée Lauder's business isn't needed to pay the bills. NASA has more than enough money to continue operating the space station, it just doesn't want to.

NASA wants to get out of the low Earth orbit business, but it doesn't want to deorbit the space station while doing so. It wants to find a way to keep the space station going until such time that commercial platforms can take its place.

It's like NASA built a house and lived in it for a while, but is now ready to move neighborhoods. It could tear it down and abandon the land, but instead it is looking to see if there are any interested subletters, if not a new property owner, with the condition it can still crash on the sofa when it wants to (so long as it chips in some beer money).

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I have absolutely no problem with this, as long as Estee Lauder is financially making it worthwhile to NASA. Are the complainers going to be as bummed out by Tom Cruise doing some filming on the ISS? Most likely that will be far more invasive in terms of disrupting the station crew than this rather banal use of the ISS.

Be honest, if you had the financial resources to fly SpaceX to the ISS and stay there for 7 to 10 days as a tourist, would you do it? If you've said yes, you've just shot down any argument you might have against this commercial.

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I missed this when it was first posted to Instagram in April, but Estée Lauder released photos of its Night Repair serum aboard the space station.
Our #1 serum Advanced Night Repair consistently receives five stars — so it was only natural that the bottle should travel among them!

Thanks to a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity aboard the International Space Station, our Little Brown Bottle got to hop a flight to space. We’re always searching for the next frontiers in scientific research and skincare, and now Advanced Night Repair got to push past the boundaries outside of this world.

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