posted 03-21-2013 04:34 AM               

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Originally posted by GACspaceguy:
So scrapped bolts, washers, pieces in Lucite are not out of the question, as was done during the restoration of Liberty Bell 7?

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The F-1 engines (parts) remain the property of NASA. Jeff Bezos and his expedition team have acknowledged NASA's title and have not publicly suggested that they have plans to change that status.

The motivations behind the funding of the two expeditions were different.

posted 03-22-2013 07:53 AM            

Even if NASA does not relinquish ownership, at least the world gets to see these very important images of the past thanks to Mr. Bezos. And even if they are not from Apollo 11, they are still from an incredible era in exploration.

posted 03-22-2013 10:00 AM               

Jeff Bezos' ocean-recovered Apollo rocket engines arrive on shore

Returning to Cape Canaveral for the first time since they were used to launch a giant Saturn V rocket, the recovered parts from two colossal F-1 engines arrived on shore Thursday (March 21) after more than 40 years being lost at sea.

posted 03-22-2013 08:01 PM               

The Cosmosphere applauds Jeff Bezos and his team on their successful mission to recover the historic Apollo Saturn V first stage engine artifacts. The Cosmosphere is proud to be part of the conservation efforts of this amazing mission. The Cosmosphere took part in the restoration of Liberty Bell 7 in 1999 and we recognize the tenacity it takes to bring these historic treasures back from the ocean’s depths. With Liberty Bell 7 in our Museum now, we witness every day how these artifacts inspire young people to explore the possibilities of their futures and careers.

posted 03-23-2013 12:46 AM               

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Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
So, no, I would not expect to see sales of any flown F-1 engines parts.

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posted 03-23-2013 01:18 AM               

Engineers were sent to inspect some of the debris, and NASA agreed to test some samples to identify them as Skylab or not, but then the pieces were returned to their finders.

The Skylab lucites were sold by several companies, including one associated with Pete Conrad.

posted 03-25-2013 05:15 PM               

Jeff Bezos' salvaged rocket engines land in Kansas for conservation

The historic NASA rocket engine parts raised off the ocean floor by Amazon founder Jeff Bezos have landed at a Kansas museum, where the 40-year-old artifacts' conservation will soon begin in view of the public.

The Kansas Cosmosphere and Space Center announced Monday (March 25) the arrival of more than 25000 pounds (11,340 kilograms) of Apollo-era F-1 engine components, which just four days earlier had arrived on shore in Cape Canaveral, Fla.

"Raising these artifacts from a depth of three miles below the ocean surface is a herculean task by itself, and we salute Bezos and his entire team for their perseverance and tenacity in the effort," said Jim Remar, Cosmosphere president and chief operating officer. Remar took charge of the conservation portion of the F-1 engine artifacts as they were offloaded at Port Canaveral to begin their trip to the Hutchinson, Kansas, museum.

A public observation gallery will soon allow Cosmosphere visitors to see the conservation work in progress. Exhibits about the maritime recovery of these artifacts and others will be housed in the observation area.

In addition, a new website is now under development that will allow the public to watch the progress live online.

posted 03-27-2013 02:50 PM            

1. Will the exact S-1C that these engines came from be identified?
   
2. Will that information be made public?

posted 03-27-2013 02:58 PM               

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Originally posted by tegwilym:
I hope the plans for sending one to Seattle's Museum of Flight are still in the works.

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posted 03-27-2013 03:03 PM               

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Originally posted by Paul78zephyr:
Will the exact S-1C that these engines came from be identified?

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Will that information be made public?

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posted 05-14-2013 05:05 PM               

Public invited to see Amazon CEO's moon engines in Kansas

The massive moon rocket engines that Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos salvaged from the ocean floor are now undergoing conversation in Kansas and the public is invited to come see.

The Kansas Cosmosphere and Space Center will open its new SpaceWorks Observation Gallery on Friday, May 24, where visitors can get a clear view of the conservators as they preserve the parts for two mammoth Apollo Saturn V F-1 rocket engines that powered Americans to the moon. Some of the recovered engine artifacts at the Hutchinson museum weigh as much as 2,000 pounds (907 kilograms), while others are as small as a dime.

"These artifacts give us a magnificent window into history," Kansas Cosmosphere president Jim Remar said. "The F-1 remains the most powerful American liquid-fueled rocket engine ever developed. Studying these [salvaged] engines can provide us a tremendous amount of information about the design of future rockets and spacecraft."

posted 05-14-2013 05:10 PM               

Visitors must first obtain tickets at the Cosmosphere, 1100 N. Plum, where the tour begins in the Hall of Space Museum's Apollo Gallery. Visitors are then shuttled to the Cosmosphere's SpaceWorks division to view the Apollo F-1 conservation efforts underway. No direct access to SpaceWorks is available without the initial gallery tour.

Admission for the Apollo F-1 Conservation Project tour is $1 for Kansas Cosmosphere members and $5 for non-members. Tours are scheduled throughout the Memorial Day weekend at:

• Friday, May 24: 11 a.m., 1 p.m., 2 p.m. and 3 p.m.
  
• Saturday, May 25: 10 a.m., 11 a.m., 1 p.m., 2 p.m., 3 p.m. and 4 p.m.
  
• Sunday, May 26: 11 a.m., 1 p.m., 2 p.m. and 3 p.m.
  
• Monday, May 27: 10 a.m., 11 a.m., 1 p.m., 2 p.m. and 3 p.m.

Tours will continue on a daily basis after that. Advance reservations for all tours are recommended and may be made by calling 1-800-397-0330.

posted 05-20-2013 04:39 PM               

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Originally posted by Neil Aldrin:
Is it known at what speed the first stage hit the water at?

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It's a great question. We do not [know]. We know at their apex they were travelling some 6,000 miles an hour. What we don't know is at the point of impact how fast they were going.

posted 05-21-2013 03:02 AM               

First look at Amazon CEO's historic rocket engines being conserved in Kansas

Despite having stood up to the immense thrust needed to launch the mighty Saturn V rocket toward the moon, it turns out that the mammoth F-1 engines that powered the booster's first two-and-a-half minutes of flight were no match for the Atlantic Ocean.

The twisted and tattered remains of at least two engines, salvaged from the seafloor by an expedition organized and funded by Amazon.com CEO Jeff Bezos, are set to go on public view in Kansas on Friday (May 24) as conservators work to preserve them for generations of museum-goers to come.

For more photos, see: First look at Amazon CEO's historic moon rocket engines

posted 05-21-2013 08:24 AM               

1. Were the other three engines not visible or too destroyed?
   
2. Will there be efforts to recover engines from another Saturn V?

posted 05-21-2013 08:34 AM               

"If you think of an engine as having four components — the turbo pump, the heat exchanger, the thrust structure and the LOX [liquid oxygen] dome — we have two prime pieces of each of those," said [Cosmosphere president and chief operating officer Jim] Remar. "We actually have five thrust structures, three LOX domes, two turbo pumps and two heat exchangers, and then we have one nozzle."

Based on where it was raised, we're probably talking multiple vehicles, in my opinion. I don't have any concrete data on that, but I would be surprised if it all came from one vehicle.

posted 07-19-2013 12:18 PM               

Rocket engine part recovered by Amazon CEO has Apollo 11 history

Forty-four years (and three days) after it helped launch the first men to walk on the moon, a huge rocket engine part salvaged from the ocean floor has been positively identified as a historic component of the Apollo 11 lunar landing mission.

"I'm thrilled to share some exciting news," Amazon.com founder and CEO Jeff Bezos wrote Friday (July 19) on his Bezos Expeditions website. "44 years ago tomorrow [July 20] Neil Armstrong stepped onto the moon, and now we have recovered a critical technological marvel that made it all possible."

..."One of the conservators who was scanning the objects with a black light and a special lens filter has made a breakthrough discovery – "2044" – stenciled in black paint on the side of one of the massive thrust chambers," wrote Bezos. "2044 is the Rocketdyne [company] serial number that correlates to NASA number 6044, which is the serial number for F-1 Engine #5 from Apollo 11."

After removing more corrosion from the base of the same thrust chamber, the conservator also found "Unit No 2044" stamped into the massive engine part's metal surface.

posted 08-26-2013 04:53 PM               

Watch live as Amazon CEO's Apollo rocket engines are preserved

The historic rocket engine parts that Amazon.com CEO Jeff Bezos salvaged from the seafloor have now been launched online, providing the public a live view of the mutli-year effort to conserve the rare artifacts for future museum displays.

The Kansas Cosmosphere and Space Center on Monday (Aug. 26) debuted the "Apollo F-1 Conservation" website, where visitors can learn more about the Apollo Saturn V rocket engine parts and view the work being done to save them.

The new site can be found at f1engineconservation.org.

"This recovery and conservation isn't just important to the Cosmosphere, or even the United States," Jim Remar, the president and chief operating officer of the Cosmosphere, said. "These engines represent a time and a program that effected people across the globe. It was important to us to share the process with explorers from all walks of life, so that they might find their own inspiration in this project."

posted 03-17-2014 06:21 AM               

Amazon CEO's F-1 rocket engine recovery team honored by Explorers Club

The private expedition that successfully recovered from the ocean floor historic NASA moon rocket engines was honored in New York on Saturday (March 15) by a venerable group of explorers, including an astronaut who rode to space atop those very same engines.

The Apollo F-1 Engine Search and Recovery Team, as led by Amazon.com founder and chief executive Jeff Bezos, received the Citation of Merit from The Explorers Club, a professional society that promotes scientific exploration of the land, sea, air and space. The award was presented to Bezos by the club's president Alan Nichols and Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin, who in 1969 joined Neil Armstrong to become the first men to walk on the moon.

"We were delighted and honored that Buzz Aldrin made the trip to present the award himself," Bezos wrote on his expedition's website on Sunday. "It's a big honor and well-deserved by a truly remarkable group of explorers."

posted 03-24-2014 02:38 PM               

Exploring Legends Interview Series with the F-1 Engine Recovery Team

• Event open to: Public
  
• Date: May 06, 2014
  
• Time: 6:00pm Reception, 7:00pm Interview
  
• Location: NYC Headquarters, 46 E 70th Street, New York, NY, 10021

The Bezos F-1 Apollo Engine Recovery Team was awarded The Explorers Club Citation of Merit on March 15 at ECAD. Accepting the award was Amazon.com founder Jeff Bezos (MN'14). But in the audience were other team and Explorers Club members including David Concannon (FN'96, Expedition Leader), Ken Kamler (FR'84, Expedition Doctor) and Josh Bernstein (FR'04, Expedition Photographer).

Come hear a behind-the-scenes, no-holds-barred discussion with the three of them and Legends interviewer Jim Clash (FR'99) about the team's historic find last March. Deep-sea survey and recovery technology was used to locate and retrieve - from 14,000 feet of water off the Florida coast - the center F-1 engine from the Saturn S-IC rocket used to launch the Apollo 11 mission in 1969. A few days later, July 20, Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin became the first humans to set foot on the moon.

After the interview, as is customary, Clash will open questions up to audience members.

posted 08-04-2015 12:15 AM               

Apollo moon rocket engines recovered by Amazon CEO preserved for display

Two and a half years after an expedition led by the CEO of Amazon.com raised them off the ocean floor, the historic rocket engine parts that launched NASA astronauts on at least three missions to the moon are now preserved for museum display.

The conservation team at the Cosmosphere International SciEd Center and Space Museum (formerly known as the Kansas Cosmosphere and Space Center) in Hutchinson, Kansas completed researching and stabilizing the 25,000 pounds (11,340 kg) of Saturn V F-1 engine parts in June.

The mangled and twisted Apollo artifacts were recovered by a privately-financed effort organized by Amazon.com's Jeff Bezos more than four decades after the engines were used in the launches of the first, second and fifth manned moon landings.

"There are some small unassigned parts that we will finish the conservation on, but [all of] the major artifacts in the collection are complete," Jim Remar, the Cosmosphere's president and chief operating officer, told collectSPACE in an interview on Monday (Aug. 3). "The final process in the treatment was applying a protective coating."

posted 08-04-2015 06:11 PM               

Now Seattle’s Museum of Flight is preparing to put artifacts from the Apollo 12 and Apollo 16 moonshots on display next year.

“It’s going to be breathtaking,” Dan Hagedorn, the museum’s curator and director of collections, told GeekWire.

NASA isn’t quite finished with the paperwork, Hagedorn said. But the plan is solid enough to make arrangements for shipping more than a dozen artifacts up to Seattle from the Cosmosphere International SciEd Center and Space Museum in Kansas, where preservation experts have been working on them for more than two years.

Hagedorn said the F-1 engine parts include two thrust chambers from Apollo 12, which was launched to the moon in 1969; and a heat exchanger from Apollo 16, launched in 1972.