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Topic: Astronaut Scholars' Space Artifact Series
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TRS
Member Posts: 721
From: Wellington, New Zealand
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 09-25-2009 04:07 AM
   
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Originally posted by MrSpace86:
What would really help me is if I saw a photo of the actual items. I don't really want to cough up $700 in the dark but it seems we are in a time crunch here!
I'm tempted to agree - with less than 14 days to come up with over $1200 (after conversion to the local currency) it seems a bit of a fast ask without any photos - particularly for two items that are not from the spacecraft proper.The items sound fine but I do wonder if the extremely fast turnaround to retain our numbers is going to turn some current number holders off. That said - I will probably renew - but then again it is the equivalent of a half dozen flying lessons... |
MrSpace86
Member Posts: 1618
From: Gardner, KS, USA
Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 09-25-2009 09:01 AM
I don't really mind not having the same number (after further thought!) so I will most likely hold off until they are released or until photos appear. If I find them to be nice, then I might go ahead and renew without the same number. I might even wait until one or two of them ship out. I know that when I saw photos of the first series, I did not even hesitate to purchase. But as mentioned by Craig, two of them aren't even from the spacecraft itself. |
Leon Ford
Member Posts: 309
From: Shreveport, LA, United States
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 09-25-2009 12:45 PM
Just contacted the ASF and renewed my artifact subscription. It will be nice to keep #4 and have the complete collection. Hope they are able to keep doing this for many years!!! |
machbusterman
Member Posts: 1778
From: Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
Registered: May 2004
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posted 09-25-2009 02:44 PM
I feel exactly the same way Leon! Would be nice to have (in future years) pieces from Mercury, Gemini and Skylab programs too. |
dsenechal
Member Posts: 539
From:
Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 09-25-2009 04:32 PM
I, too, am a little hesitant to pony up the full purchase price for items that will not be available until mid-late next year, sight unseen. I wouldn't mind paying a modest deposit to hold my number, and then pay the balance when the first of the set is nearing shipment. Maybe the ASF will read these posts and take them to heart. |
NightHawk117
Member Posts: 325
From: USA
Registered: Oct 2006
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posted 09-25-2009 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by machbusterman:
I feel exactly the same way Leon! Would be nice to have (in future years) pieces from Mercury, Gemini and Skylab programs too.
I agree! |
Jeff
Member Posts: 474
From: Fayetteville, NC, USA
Registered: May 2009
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posted 09-27-2009 10:12 AM
After some thought, I’ve decided not to renew my membership for the 2010 series. I realize that the scholarship fund is a worthy cause, and I was more than happy to contribute last year. I was very excited... to say the least with the artifacts in the 2009 series. However, my reaction to the 2010 series is tepid at best. Receiving a piece of Beta cloth and a piece of a LM Schematics page, which was once historically significant... before it was cut into 200 pieces... doesn't make me say "wow, I have to add these to my collection". Speaking for myself, unless the artifact is part of the actual spacecraft... as it was in the 09 series... I don’t give it a second thought. This coupled with the fact that charter members are only giving a small window to decide if they want to renew their membership to retain their current number... and by the way there aren't even any pictures to review... makes this decision very easy for me. |
Linn LeBlanc
Member Posts: 28
From: Titusville, FL
Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 09-28-2009 08:40 AM
Glad so many of you opted to renew your Space Artifacts Series already. We are really excited about this one, since it features TWO lunar artifacts, one of which was even on the lunar surface, and a segment of a space shuttle tile! We have not posted pictures or information online, because right now it is only available to current members. It is correct that we gave you one week to renew, however, the official roll-out will not happen until the week of Oct. 12, so you have another week to decide if you haven't already done so. The first installment will be mailed by Dec. 15, so you will have it in time for the holidays. Here is a preview:  Thank you for your support and we look forward to bringing a second year of this Series to you! |
MrSpace86
Member Posts: 1618
From: Gardner, KS, USA
Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 09-28-2009 12:52 PM
Yeah... I agree with Jeff. I will also go ahead and pass up on next year's. The acrylic previewed looks great, but the artifact does not really seems to fit in. Maybe in 2011. Thanks for the preview and the offer to renew! I will post pics of the Apollo 13 item when I receive it though. Still a wonderful series though that I hope continues in 2011. |
Linn LeBlanc
Member Posts: 28
From: Titusville, FL
Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 09-28-2009 01:24 PM
I'm sorry you will not be renewing. The Space Artifacts Series was always meant to encompass all artifacts that have flown in space, hardware and otherwise. In addition, we plan to showcase all the American space programs, so you will be seeing, Mercury, Gemini, Skylab and ASTP items as well in the future. We can't always promise they are going to be straight off the spacecraft, but we will always guarantee a first-class, quality product. Like last year, each of these artifacts will be accompanied by a COA signed by the donating astronaut - Edgar Mitchell, Charlie Duke and Don Williams. Only 200 memberships will be offered in all.
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MrSpace86
Member Posts: 1618
From: Gardner, KS, USA
Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 09-28-2009 04:34 PM
Oh, I never said they are not quality... I love the first series!! But I am definitely looking forward to series 3. As mentioned, the new series does not fit what I collect in terms of lucites. I love the COA, the lucite, and that it is all for a good cause. It is a great program! Thanks for the preview though! |
Jeff
Member Posts: 474
From: Fayetteville, NC, USA
Registered: May 2009
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posted 09-28-2009 04:56 PM
I agree completely... I never intended for my post to place under question the professionalism of the staff or the quality of the artifacts. Terrific acrylics that are showcased in my collection. It's just that the 2010 series doesn't fit in with my collection. I’m still looking forward to my Apollo 13 acrylic showing up... and I'm also looking forward to the 2011 series. |
rjurek349
Member Posts: 1190
From: Northwest Indiana
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 09-28-2009 05:32 PM
I renewed mine yesterday as well. (Dang, Leon: you beat me to it!) The first batch was of outstanding quality, and it adds to my exisiting lucite collection. This next batch fills in two big holes, from a lucite perspective, on key missions. And my wishes are being filled in the future -- i.e, Mercury, Gemini, ASTP, etc. It is a great series, value priced, and for a good cause. Sign me up! |
randyc
Member Posts: 779
From: Chandler, AZ USA
Registered: May 2003
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posted 09-29-2009 12:29 PM
Linn, can you post photos of the other two 2010 series acrylics? |
MadSci
Member Posts: 226
From: Maryland, USA
Registered: Oct 2008
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posted 09-30-2009 06:14 PM
Linn, thanks for the post of the Series 2 acrylic. Might one ask if the remaining acrylics from Series 1 could be mailed out shortly?After all, if you're already making the Second Series acrylics, I would expect you have the First Series in hand already. |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42981
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 09-30-2009 06:23 PM
As noted by Dave Blog on September 24 on this thread: ...the third installment for 2009 will be shipped on or about November 25th. |
Linn LeBlanc
Member Posts: 28
From: Titusville, FL
Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 10-01-2009 09:39 AM
I will post the other two 2010 samples next week. As for sending the final 2009 artifact, you'll have to wait until November... sorry, but that's when they are scheduled to be released!  SO - it will give you something to look forward to perhaps? |
NightHawk117
Member Posts: 325
From: USA
Registered: Oct 2006
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posted 10-06-2009 02:32 PM
I am looking forward to seeing the others! |
NightHawk117
Member Posts: 325
From: USA
Registered: Oct 2006
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posted 10-30-2009 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by Linn LeBlanc:
...the official roll-out will not happen until the week of Oct. 12, so you have another week to decide if you haven't already done so.
Have these gone public? |
NightHawk117
Member Posts: 325
From: USA
Registered: Oct 2006
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posted 11-17-2009 10:53 AM
Just added to their site!  2010 SAS features: - Apollo 14 Beta cloth segment flown to the moon with astronaut Edgar Mitchell
- Apollo 16 Pyro System Schematic section flown to the moon surface with astronaut Charlie Duke
- Space Shuttle Discovery Thermal Protection tile segment from astronaut Don Williams
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liebeek
Member Posts: 247
From: the netherlands
Registered: Jan 2008
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posted 11-17-2009 03:32 PM
Just curious as to your opinions: are these three artifacts just as valuable, in the historic sense not money-wise, as the 2009 series? |
Jeff
Member Posts: 474
From: Fayetteville, NC, USA
Registered: May 2009
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posted 11-17-2009 07:52 PM
That's a great question... personally I feel the historical significance would be in the eyes of the individual that purchases the items. For instance, I also collect WW2 memorabilia, what I feel is a historically significant find you may feel is just a rusty piece of junk. As I stated in an earlier post, in my humble opinion, and with all due respect to those cS members that renewed, when you take a complete schematics page that was flown, and cut it into 200 pieces it loses much of its historical value. I feel the same in regards to the piece of Beta cloth, if it was a complete PPK or an entire flown Beta cloth bag that stored one of the two LEVAs that would be historically significant to me, not just a piece of Beta cloth that flew. The Shuttle collectible is a totally different story however, to me, that is the one collectible in this series that holds the most historical significance. It holds its own with the flown Kapton from "Spider", the flown couch material from "Odyssey" and the flown tire fragment from STS-27 and 28. Again, this is just my opinion and I don't mean to offend or upset any of my fellow cS members. |
c11esh
Member Posts: 34
From: UK
Registered: Mar 2009
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posted 11-18-2009 08:39 AM
It is all about personal opinion. I renewed mine without hesitation. You could look at the fact that 2 of 3 in the 2010 set are lunar pieces (one even surface flown), compared to 1 in the 2009. I am a new, low budget collector and know I would never be able to afford a full flown page. So I am very happy having a 1/200th piece with great provenance, in a nice display and giving money to a good cause. I agree that the shuttle tile does look very interesting. |
GACspaceguy
Member Posts: 2474
From: Guyton, GA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 11-25-2009 09:20 AM
Just recieved this e-mail from the ASF folks: Watch your mailbox for the long awaited Apollo 13 artifact, as your final shipment for the 2009 Space Artifact Series (SAS) has been mailed today! |
GACspaceguy
Member Posts: 2474
From: Guyton, GA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 11-27-2009 01:09 PM
Recieved my Apollo 13 lucite today, fantastic!! |
Jeff
Member Posts: 474
From: Fayetteville, NC, USA
Registered: May 2009
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posted 11-27-2009 02:06 PM
The Apollo 13 Acrylic was well worth the wait. I enjoyed the entire 2009 series and I’m looking forward to the 2011 series with great anticipation. |
MrSpace86
Member Posts: 1618
From: Gardner, KS, USA
Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 11-27-2009 02:23 PM
I too enjoyed the 2009 series. It was spectacular. I can't wait to see what 2011 holds for us. As always, here are some pics:#31 here.  
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NightHawk117
Member Posts: 325
From: USA
Registered: Oct 2006
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posted 11-27-2009 02:57 PM
Number 81 touched down today! |
Leon Ford
Member Posts: 309
From: Shreveport, LA, United States
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 11-27-2009 04:45 PM
Well done ASF! #4 touched down today in Louisiana. Looking forward to 2010!!! |
rjurek349
Member Posts: 1190
From: Northwest Indiana
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 11-27-2009 07:28 PM
Bravo, ASF: #11 touched down in Northwest Indiana today. A nice warm tonic on such a cold, gray day. A beautiful lucite! |
daveblog
Member Posts: 135
From: Bergenfield, NJ USA
Registered: May 2004
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posted 11-28-2009 08:00 PM
#10 arrived in NJ yesterday! I can't wait for series 2 to start arriving next year. |
p.kentzinger
Member Posts: 95
From: Kienheim, France
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 12-02-2009 02:13 PM
#80 in France today |
liebeek
Member Posts: 247
From: the netherlands
Registered: Jan 2008
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posted 12-04-2009 10:14 AM
Mine arrived today and I am already in love with it. Hope it stays with me for better and worse. I was still contemplating the 2010 series but I will probably renew. Some of you gave your opinions on why order or why not. Well, they are so beautiful the scales gave in to ordering. |
PerryM
Member Posts: 71
From: Temple, TX USA
Registered: Nov 2009
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posted 12-07-2009 07:48 AM
I got the 2009 set and have already ordered my 2010 set. Now this is kind of an opinion from everyone I want to know. In my 2009 set the tire segment is not fully set inside of the acrylic. You can actually touch the tire. In your opinion does it make it more valuable, less valuable, or makes no difference. I think it is cool you can touch it. |
MrSpace86
Member Posts: 1618
From: Gardner, KS, USA
Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 12-07-2009 10:22 AM
My opinion is that it would be "less valuable" since it is a defective acrylic. Would you mind sharing pics? I'm sure many of us would like to see it. Anyone else have thoughts? |
mjanovec
Member Posts: 3811
From: Midwest, USA
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted 12-07-2009 05:00 PM
It definitely sounds like it's a piece that didn't turn out right...as the tire segment should be centered inside the acrylic. It should have been caught in quality control, but must have slipped through somehow. Certainly, I doubt they would send out such a piece on purpose.I also would like to see a picture of it, if you can share. As for "value," it might not be worth as much if you go to re-sell it. But if you enjoy being able to touch the tire and have no plans to re-sell it, maybe it's something you would want to keep. |
set
Member Posts: 44
From: Atlanta, GA
Registered: Oct 2007
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posted 12-18-2009 10:12 AM
Just recived the first installment of the 2010 ASF Artifact Series - the Space Shuttle Thermal Tile! Wasn't expecting it so soon. It's very nicely done, just like all of the others. |
idrvball
Member Posts: 150
From: Burke, VA USA
Registered: Mar 2009
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posted 12-19-2009 11:55 AM
Well, based on all your great recommendations, I just finished ordering this years series. I'm looking forward to receiving them. |
machbusterman
Member Posts: 1778
From: Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
Registered: May 2004
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posted 04-15-2010 03:50 PM
Does anyone know when the next SAS artifact will ship? |
daveblog
Member Posts: 135
From: Bergenfield, NJ USA
Registered: May 2004
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posted 04-16-2010 11:50 AM
I received my Apollo 14 Beta Cloth lucite this morning in New Jersey. |
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