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Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-25-2020 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please use this topic to discuss Boeing's CST-100 Starliner-1 mission to the International Space Station.

NASA astronauts Scott Tingle and Mike Fincke and Canadian Space Agency astronaut Joshua Kutryk are assigned to fly the Starliner-1 mission.

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Boeing Astronaut Chris Ferguson shared the following statement today (Aug. 25) regarding NASA's Starliner-1 crew assignment:
The Boeing team is honored that NASA assigned astronaut Dr. Jeanette Epps to the crew of Starliner-1, Boeing's first operational mission to the International Space Station.

Jeanette will be a part of an important and history-making flight, and we're excited to welcome her to the Starliner team. Jeanette's crewmates, Suni Williams and Josh Cassada, are regulars at our Florida facilities and are training in Houston. We're looking forward to getting to know her just as well as we progress toward this flight.

From Suni Williams (via Twitter):
A huge congratulations to Dr. Jeanette Epps for joining the Starliner team. Specifically, I cannot wait for her to join our crew, CTS-1, Starliner-1, to go to the International Space Station. Congratulations, looking forward to working with you and flying with you Jeanette.
From Josh Cassada (via Twitter):
A huge congratulations to my friend and new crewmate Jeanette Epps! I am so excited to have you join us riding the Atlas V, flying the Starliner to the International Space Station and then living and working there for six months. I am so excited.

Just a couple of things I think we need to get sorted out: I know we both claim Michigan, so I am not going to arm wrestle you for it, I've seen you in the gym, so maybe we can split it? You take down state, I take northern Michigan? Or we can split it east-west, we can use I-75, but we can get that sorted out.

The only other thing we need to get sorted out is on Starliner, I call shotgun.

Hey, huge congrats! Welcome to the team Jeanette. We'll see you soon.

From Jeanette Epps (via Twitter):
I am super excited to join Suni Williams and Josh Cassada on the first operational Boeing crew mission to the International Space Station. I have flown in helicopters with Suni flying and I have in the backseat of a T-38 with Josh flying and they are both wonderful people to work with, so I am looking forward to the mission. Thank you.

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posted 08-25-2020 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delta7   Click Here to Email Delta7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good news. My opinion was that if she wasn't assigned to Starliner-1 or Crew 2 or 3, that NASA had no intention of flying her.

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posted 08-25-2020 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder who will be the fourth crew member: from CSA or ESA and when will it be announced?

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Josh Cassada has been reassigned from the Starliner-1 crew to SpaceX Crew-5 "to [sooner] gain spaceflight experience for the future needs of the agency's missions," NASA has announced.

Suni Williams will continue to provide experience for Boeing as the agency prepares for Starliner-1. NASA did not mention Jeanette Epps in its release, but later confirmed that she remains assigned to Starliner-1 for now.

Update: NASA posted the following to its website —

NASA astronaut Jeanette Epps remains assigned to NASA’s Boeing Starliner-1 for a long-duration science mission aboard the International Space Station. It is important for Nicole Mann, Josh Cassada and Jeanette Epps to gain their first spaceflight experience, and Epps currently is cross training with the team on the Crew Dragon system. There are many factors in play before any crew assignment is ready, including discussions with our international partners and Multilateral Crew Operations Panel approval. All three crew members have ample time to train on commercial crew systems and become fully prepared for their missions to the International Space Station.

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NASA update
NASA and Boeing's first crew rotation mission to the space station is planned for no earlier than summer 2024.

NASA astronauts Scott Tingle and Mike Fincke, commander and pilot, respectively, will fly aboard the Starliner spacecraft, which previously flew on Boeing's Orbital Flight Test-2 mission. Two mission specialists will be assigned in the coming months.

Timing of the launch is subject to change based on several factors, including: a successful Crew Flight Test (CFT), incorporation of anticipated learning from CFT, approvals of postflight data and final certification products, and completion of operational readiness and certification reviews.

Starliner-1 will fly a new service module currently in production at the Boeing facility at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida. Production of the Atlas V rocket is complete. The hardware is in storage at the United Launch Alliance facility in Decatur, Alabama, awaiting shipment to the launch site for stacking and final integration with the spacecraft.

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posted 04-15-2023 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for J Blackburn   Click Here to Email J Blackburn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there a second crew flight test planned for Starliner after CST-100 Crew Flight Test in July and I say July with caution? If not why almost another year plus or minus a month or two to fly the first crew rotation mission?

With all due respect to the mishap with the first flight test Boeing and NASA scheduling is getting further away with no real results. Safety is the key but at what point do you just say enough is enough. I want to see Boeing succeed but now summer 2024 before the first crew rotation?

SpaceX had a few mishaps but still was able to complete the requirements (Crew Rotations) in a timely manner. I have to ask if NASA made the right choice with Boeing instead of going with another company? Any thoughts?

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There is only one crew flight test. Boeing-1 (or Starliner-1) will be the next flight of Starliner after CFT, unless something were to go seriously wrong with CFT.

While it is not apples to oranges, it is neither a direct fair comparison between SpaceX and Boeng's development milestones. Each company set their own requirements, NASA only approved them. It was Boeing's decision to fly a second OFT mission at its own cost. NASA was fine with Boeing proceeding directly to CFT.

As for the time between CFT and Starliner-1, that is decided by traffic at the space station and already assigned crews. There is no point in shortening expeditions or swapping crew orders just because Starliner is new.

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posted 04-15-2023 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Behling   Click Here to Email Jim Behling     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by J Blackburn:
I have to ask if NASA made the right choice with Boeing instead of going with another company?
There was nobody else capable.

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posted 11-22-2023 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Canadian Space Agency announced today (Nov. 22) that Joshua Kutryk has been assigned to the Starliner-1 crew, joining NASA astronauts Scott Tingle and Mike Fincke.

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posted 07-26-2024 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Starliner-1 is now targeted for launch in August 2025.

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As I recall, NASA had to choose two out of the finalist three companies: SpaceX, Boeing, and Sierra Nevada. The sense, at the time, was that NASA did not want another space vehicle with "wings," like Dream Chaser. So they went with the two companies proposing capsule designs. No one, at the time, would have predicted that Boeing's performance would be so questionable.

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Dream Chaser was not chosen for due to "technical uncertainty and schedule risk."

Under its commercial cargo contract, Dream Chaser has also missed its window for an inaugural flight. It is not clear when it will fly, if before the end of the year or in 2025, but that is for a vehicle without the complexities that come with flying a crew.

Back to Starliner-1, NASA has double booked the August crew rotation, so it is still to be seen if Starliner or SpaceX's Crew 11 fulfills that crew rotation.

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One can only speculate how Sierra Nevada would have performed had it been given the funding that NASA allotted to Boeing.

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