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Axman
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posted 07-11-2023 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Axman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I note that on page 316, Table 1 of Umberto Cavallaro's book "The Race To The Moon" he lists the number of flown covers each Apollo mission carried.

Does anyone know of a similar listing anywhere for the numbers of insurance covers that were prepared, signed and cancelled for each mission from Apollo 11 through to Apollo 16?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 07-11-2023 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is what Howard Weinberger (cS: lunareagle) wrote about the population of insurance covers for his article on the Space Flown Artifacts website:
Numbers? Who knows? Probably at least 500+ for each mission would be in the ballpark. But some flights had fewer done, with probably Apollo 13 and 16 the smallest number and Apollo 12 Bishop covers and Apollo 15 covers the most, while the Apollo 11 and 13 covers are currently among the most expensive.

Apollo 11's are expensive because of it being Apollo 11, even though a fair number of Apollo 11s probably exist. Apollo 11 CMP Mike Collins was asked if he could verify how many insurance covers were done for Apollo 11 and while he could not confirm the exact number, he said that he believed the number was maybe a 1000 in total.

Axman
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posted 07-11-2023 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Axman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for that Robert.

For someone like me, late to the game, I'm finding it very difficult to locate any at all.

To think there are a thousand out there and yet I've only ever seen one Apollo 11 Insurance Cover for sale. Foolishly I didn't think of buying it because one of the signatures was overlain by a postage stamp.

Strangely enough I have managed to purchase two: an Apollo 15 and an Apollo 16 — which according to the quote above are from the largest and smallest sets.

micropooz
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posted 07-11-2023 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for micropooz   Click Here to Email micropooz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The complicating thing about the Apollo 11 insurance covers is that the crew quit signing covers (for the most part, there were a few exceptions) after their flight. So, if a collector wants an Apollo 11 crew signed cover, insurance covers are one of the few options. So that bit of demand, plus the demand from Apollo 11 being the first moonlanding, makes them hard to find.

Ken Havekotte
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posted 07-11-2023 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's quite possible that some Apollo lunar landing missions, such as Apollo 15, had 1,000 or more crew insurance covers printed and signed. This may had been the case for both Irwin and Worden. Irwin had said "they did many hundreds" and Worden numbered his crew covers at least to 500 in a series. If each had about 500, that would be 1,500 total, however, I have no idea how many Scott kept. Irwin himself sold hundreds of his own crew covers, but mostly as a donation to his High Flight Foundation ministries throughout the 1980's.

Apollo 11, as we know, had three different types of insurance covers that could easily go past 1,000 and probably more.

In my opinion, not too much with Apollos 12 and 13, but I think 14 had more than 500, but less with Apollo 16.

As a side bar to Apollo 13, Haise on the other hand, had three different cachet cover varieties before his launch to the moon in 1970. But none of those covers had been signed nor postally cancelled until they were retrieved 30 years later after his lunar voyage. At that time, 348 emblem cachet covers of his were prepared, all signed by Haise and Lovell in 2000, and cancelled at KSC on April 11, 2000, in commemoration of Apollo 13's 30th anniversary. Most of the proceeds of those cover sales were for charity with The Astronauts Memorial Foundation and The Astronaut Scholarship Foundation.

Regarding crew insurance covers that had been released by crew quarters here at KSC, keep in mind that many of them had been crew signed prior to their launch to the moon, but did not receive postal cancellations on them.

From my own personal experiences, this has happened for Apollo 11, 13, 14, and 15, overall. At one time I had dozens like this for Apollo 13, a dozen or so for 11, with a couple dozen more of each for 14 and 15. For those with cancels and fully signed, all had been possible to obtain by crewmen and family members, cover promotor Al Bishop, and by a couple of full-time workers within crew quarters long after the Apollo program had ended.

bobslittlebro
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posted 07-11-2023 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bobslittlebro   Click Here to Email bobslittlebro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ken, did Apollo 13 or Apollo 12 use Heritage/Craft cacheted covers in their insurance cover group?

Ken Havekotte
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posted 07-11-2023 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An excellent question Tim that someone has finally asked; For the most part, in my opinion, it's a partial "yes" and "no" reply!

Heritage Crafts owner, Dave Ouellette of Titusville, a KSC-Bendix employee, did in fact provide small quantities of his well-done cachet covers (even with two different cachet types in some instances for the same mission) to Apollo crewmen while they were in protective quarantine at KSC before their lunar voyages.

Most likely his Apollo 10 covers were the first provided to a prime astronaut crew. The practice did continue for most all of the Apollo lunar landings, including 13, very few for 12, but not 17. In return, the Apollo astronauts would hand-sign a small number of the covers to Ouellette and his partner, cover artwork designer Don Wiles, as a "thank you" for providing them.

With some of the Apollo astronaut families, a very limited few of the Heritage Crafts covers did wind up with the more-commonly used mission emblem cachet covers owned/used by the family members as possible crew insurance covers. Others from crew quarters did surface years afterwards, all pre-launch crew signed, both with and without postal mission cancels on them.

Bob M
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posted 07-15-2023 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob M   Click Here to Email Bob M     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Often an "Apollo insurance cover" isn't actually an Apollo insurance cover. Many of the insurance-designed covers were signed post-flight and appear basically identical to actual insurance covers. Ideally, documentation or some sort of verification should accompany any cover deemed to be an insurance cover.

But many actual insurance covers, including Apollo 11 insurance covers, were not documented in any way, including Apollo 11 insurance covers from the late-80's sale of over a hundred (thought to be from Mike Collins' holdings). However, those from the Neil Armstrong estate all came with iron-clad documentation and are the cream of the crop.

For Apollo 12, Pete Conrad was excellent about documenting his insurance covers and noted they came from him on the back of at least a good number of his covers.

I was fortunate to acquire a "look-alike" crew signed Apollo 13 cover that is identical to actual Apollo 13 insurance covers in every way, but it was signed at KSC for a NASA/KSC official while the crew was there for pre-flight training and is in no way an insurance cover, but looks just like one. It certainly would pass for one.

There are many "look-alike" Apollo insurance covers in existence, but like my Apollo 13, were never intended to be used as insurance covers and documentation should accompany any cover thought to be an insurance cover - but sadly, many lack any such verification. So those with documentation should be prized and sell at a premium.

Ken Havekotte
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posted 07-15-2023 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well said Bob. True Apollo crew insurance covers should have the necessary documentation that they were indeed prepared, signed pre-launch, postmarked, and owned by that designated prime astronaut crewman and their families. I still believe that some of the Heritage Crafts covers were prepared in the exact same way as Tim was asking about, but they were done in such limited numbers.

As a side bar, when I was able to acquire several of Pete Conrad's personal insurance covers for Apollo 12, I had asked the third moonwalker if he would write a few words on the back of each one to verify that personal connection. He did so, as did Jim Irwin beforehand, which I believe were the first insurance covers to have those verifying claims on the covers' back-side surfaces. When signing by Irwin, he did question in a nice way if I was sure he wanted me to do this, of course, I said "Yes sir, I am."

Are those we're discussing by Heritage Crafts considered true crew insurance covers? Probably not in comparison to the large quantities of emblem cachet covers used (along with the Dow and MSCSC varieties for Apollo 11), but you be the judge.

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