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SpaceAholic
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posted 09-23-2011 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
During a 2008 auction several flown Apollo fire extinguishers were sold including a unit described as being manifested aboard the Apollo 14 command module Kitty Hawk.
This deactivated fire extinguisher weighs 7lb. 11oz. and has a metal ID label attached with NASA ID numbers (ID No. ME280-0010-0004 / Serial No. 652570003KKK) that show it was made by the Southwest Research Institute in 6-2-70. This unit is classified "Class III".

A full paperwork file consisting of the System and Component Historical Record, the Component History Record and the multipage Southwest Research Institute, End Item Acceptance Data Package for the Apollo Fire Extinguisher / P/N 220201-04 is included.

Only one fire extinguisher was carried in the Command Module of each Apollo flight.

An Apollo 14 fire extinguisher is on exhibit at the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex.

Is there anyone who is visiting who can image and verify the data plate on the displayed artifact to corroborate if these are one and the same? Does anybody know how long the extinguisher has been on display and its chain of custody from 2008 onward?

If they are not the same then either the KSC artifact or the one sold via auction (which included paperwork denoting its flown status) is incorrectly attributed as having been aboard Kitty Hawk during its mission.

SpaceAholic
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posted 09-27-2011 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Apollo 17 command module extinguisher:

Affiliated paperwork which includes the Test Preparation Sheet (TPS) and flight history records. The paperwork is instructive as it provides a glimpse into the meticulous processes in place to ensure traceability throughout the life of the artifact utilizing the ASHUR and TPS system.

There are identical records which were generated for each item (and/or derivative components) removed post-flight from the Apollo command modules.

Joel Katzowitz
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posted 09-29-2011 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joel Katzowitz   Click Here to Email Joel Katzowitz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A buddy of mine was very interested in those Goldberg fire extinguishers, but didn't have the resources to actually bid on them. He did manage to get in touch with the consignor and they have been corresponding ever since. The consignor's name, Robert Stuckey, appears on your documentation.

DMScott
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posted 09-30-2011 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DMScott   Click Here to Email DMScott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scott -- congratulations on an amazing artifact with stellar documentation. Enjoy it.

space1
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posted 09-30-2011 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for space1   Click Here to Email space1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very nice addition, Scott.

I recently saw and photographed the fire extinguisher at KSC. I don't believe the location of the display case will allow viewing of the data plate. So the cooperation of Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex will probably be needed.

SpaceAholic
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posted 09-30-2011 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If the data tag is not accessible then maybe comparison with physical attributes (such as scuff marks) present on the artifact in the Goldberg image provided some lateral shots could be obtained.

Jurvetson
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posted 07-06-2024 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jurvetson   Click Here to Email Jurvetson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scott - I have a very similar looking fire extinguisher. The serial number is the same as yours, but instead of ending with NNN, it ends with AAA. Might you know it's heritage? Thanks!

SpaceAholic
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posted 07-06-2024 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All of the missions preceding Apollo 14 utilized the -0003 variant extinguishers, subsequent flights up through Skylab assigned higher drawing suffix so assumption is your example originates from the developmental pipeline Steve. At least one apparent differentiator is the hose clip at the base of the extinguisher.

Extinguisher under test:

Jurvetson
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posted 07-07-2024 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jurvetson   Click Here to Email Jurvetson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting. Mine has a hose clip too, but it is metal instead of the white material of yours. I think I am just missing the flex hose.

Thanks for the intel. I wonder if mine was a Block I design given the Jan 1966 date on it?

SpaceAholic
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posted 07-07-2024 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There were at least initially no fire extinguishers on the Block I, not tracking separate developmental efforts for each spacecraft type. More likely an evolution informed by lessons learned including those derived from the fire itself.

Can you reconfirm production date? Looks like Jan 68 in the tag image.

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