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T O P I C R E V I E WMatt TCan anyone recommend any space sights worth a look in Moscow? I gather Star City isn't open to visits unless you pay for a full on two day tour (out of my budget and timetable). Any museums?Cheers,Matteurospace quote:Originally posted by Matt T:Can anyone recommend any space sights worth a look in Moscow? I gather Star City isn't open to visits unless you pay for a full on two day tour (out of my budget and timetable). Any museums?Cheers,MattThe Cosmos museum near the large (dubbed "the impotents' man dream" by the Moscovites) spaceflight monument. What remains of the WPNCh exhibition pavillon. Star City is definitely more interesting if you can afford it, as is the NPO Energya museum which is only accessible on invitation. Best is to establish good contacts to Russian space buffs or cosmonauts.Have a nice trip!------------------Jürgen P EsdersBerlin, Germanyhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/AstroaddiesderekThe Buran shuttle in Gorki Park,perhaps; I have two free days in Moscow(with my zero G and edge of space flights in between-sorry,that just slipped out!)so I hope to see it on one of the days.------------------andysaunders1How do you go about organising a tour of Star City? Is this by invite also? How 'expensive' is it?With regard Energya can you simply write to them for an invite?I've been searching the net for info on both the above to no avail. Except for that Space Tourism company tha does zero-g trips etc. also. This company isn't the only route to both is it?ThanksAndyeurospace quote:Originally posted by andysaunders1:How do you go about organising a tour of Star City? Is this by invite also? How 'expensive' is it?With regard Energya can you simply write to them for an invite?I've been searching the net for info on both the above to no avail. Except for that Space Tourism company tha does zero-g trips etc. also. This company isn't the only route to both is it?ThanksAndyAndy,Forget about the Internet - this is Russia.You'll find offers for tours in Star City in most large hotels. Whether they take place or not depends whether they find enough participants to make it worthwhile. So when you are several - pool yourself. I don't know about current prices. You will not hear anything at all from writing to Energiya and ask for an invite. Again, this is Russia. A visit there is an honor to be bestowed upon important people with whom they hope to make business, not a tourist thing. You got to have contacts and pull strings. Good knowledge of Russian and of their social habits helps.------------------Jürgen P EsdersBerlin, Germanyhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/AstroaddiesKirstenHi - I have been very lucky to visit both Star City and RKK Energia back in 2000, during a trip to Moscow guided by renowned Dutch space journalist Piet Smolders. It was, indeed, an organized tour. I have been able to touch the original Wostok-1 Gagarin capsule and the Tereshkova one. Believe me - I felt like a muslim performing his travel to Mecca !!!!! WOW !!!Similar things must be possible from GB, too, mustn't they ? BW and success,Kirsteneurospace quote:Originally posted by Matt T:Can anyone recommend any space sights worth a look in Moscow? I gather Star City isn't open to visits unless you pay for a full on two day tour (out of my budget and timetable). Any museums?Cheers,MattThere is a nice article about the Cosmos Museum at Moscow in Florida Today: http://www.floridatoday.com/news/space/stories/2003b/060603russianhistory.htm ------------------Jürgen P EsdersBerlin, Germanyhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/AstroaddiesMatt TThanks everyone for the info. Turns out I'm only going to have about three hours spare so I'll have to rush!Cheers,MattspaceukYou want to look out for the street monuments like busts of Gagarin,et al and the "Space Monument" if you only have 3 hours. And the 'lost cosmonaut' plaques near Lenin Tomb in Red Square.And,you can't miss it - Moscow Uni where Gagarin and others did acceleration tests in the Uni's fats lifts .spaceukOOpsFats !Well could have been :-))But, in fact, should be fast liftsIf you're there Sunday - go the 'flea markets' but take a Russian friend for protection. Good bargains in them but can get 'wild' and 'rough'. eurospace quote:Originally posted by spaceuk:If you're there Sunday - go the 'flea markets' but take a Russian friend for protection. Good bargains in them but can get 'wild' and 'rough'. Read 'wild' and 'rough' as shootings, muggings and murder. Be sure to know your Russian friend well (not an acquaintance you just met in front of the hotel) - otherwise you might want to take yet another friend to protect you from the friend ;-)------------------Jürgen P EsdersBerlin, Germanyhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Astroaddies
Cheers,Matt
quote:Originally posted by Matt T:Can anyone recommend any space sights worth a look in Moscow? I gather Star City isn't open to visits unless you pay for a full on two day tour (out of my budget and timetable). Any museums?Cheers,Matt
The Cosmos museum near the large (dubbed "the impotents' man dream" by the Moscovites) spaceflight monument. What remains of the WPNCh exhibition pavillon.
Star City is definitely more interesting if you can afford it, as is the NPO Energya museum which is only accessible on invitation. Best is to establish good contacts to Russian space buffs or cosmonauts.
Have a nice trip!
------------------Jürgen P EsdersBerlin, Germanyhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Astroaddies
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With regard Energya can you simply write to them for an invite?
I've been searching the net for info on both the above to no avail. Except for that Space Tourism company tha does zero-g trips etc. also. This company isn't the only route to both is it?
Thanks
Andy
quote:Originally posted by andysaunders1:How do you go about organising a tour of Star City? Is this by invite also? How 'expensive' is it?With regard Energya can you simply write to them for an invite?I've been searching the net for info on both the above to no avail. Except for that Space Tourism company tha does zero-g trips etc. also. This company isn't the only route to both is it?ThanksAndy
Andy,
Forget about the Internet - this is Russia.
You'll find offers for tours in Star City in most large hotels. Whether they take place or not depends whether they find enough participants to make it worthwhile. So when you are several - pool yourself. I don't know about current prices.
You will not hear anything at all from writing to Energiya and ask for an invite. Again, this is Russia. A visit there is an honor to be bestowed upon important people with whom they hope to make business, not a tourist thing. You got to have contacts and pull strings. Good knowledge of Russian and of their social habits helps.
I have been very lucky to visit both Star City and RKK Energia back in 2000, during a trip to Moscow guided by renowned Dutch space journalist Piet Smolders. It was, indeed, an organized tour.
I have been able to touch the original Wostok-1 Gagarin capsule and the Tereshkova one. Believe me - I felt like a muslim performing his travel to Mecca !!!!! WOW !!!
Similar things must be possible from GB, too, mustn't they ?
BW and success,
Kirsten
There is a nice article about the Cosmos Museum at Moscow in Florida Today: http://www.floridatoday.com/news/space/stories/2003b/060603russianhistory.htm
And,you can't miss it - Moscow Uni where Gagarin and others did acceleration tests in the Uni's fats lifts .
Fats !
Well could have been :-))
But, in fact, should be fast lifts
If you're there Sunday - go the 'flea markets' but take a Russian friend for protection.
Good bargains in them but can get 'wild' and 'rough'.
quote:Originally posted by spaceuk:If you're there Sunday - go the 'flea markets' but take a Russian friend for protection. Good bargains in them but can get 'wild' and 'rough'.
Read 'wild' and 'rough' as shootings, muggings and murder.
Be sure to know your Russian friend well (not an acquaintance you just met in front of the hotel) - otherwise you might want to take yet another friend to protect you from the friend ;-)
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