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T O P I C R E V I E WejectrDo astronauts teach astronauts? I know there are a lot of non-astronauts that train them, but who would know more about flying the shuttle simulator or space walking in a swimming pool than the people who have exprienced the real thing?MCroft04Good question. I don't know if astronauts are involved in the formal training program, but I've heard a number of astronauts give credit to other more experienced astronauts for helping them learn more about how to function in space. For example Jim Voss said that he learned so much about EVA's from working with Story Musgrave, so as expected there is at least some informal training the occurs.[This message has been edited by MCroft04 (edited June 28, 2006).]november25Hi Mel,what you say quote- I have heard some Astronauts helping others-I certainly heard this whilst in Florida- speaking to several former astros- They do Indeed look up to Story Musgrave,and say they did learn a great deal from him-regarding doing an EVA- after all- Story is classed as the RENAISSANCE-person-with regard to shuttle flights.this is true-after I had converstaions with many astros-Storys name became uttermost in the talks.We all had a jolly good time-and I certainly had a spendid vacation-words cannot express the joy and thanks to everyone hubby and myself met.Mel- trust you and the family are okay.Regards from Brenda.pokeyThe crews are always a mix of experience levels. The commander teaches the pilot how to be a better pilot with an eye to becoming a better commander for being under his or her wing. The experienced mission specialists show the less experienced ones the ropes. The trainers are running from specific goals and objectives for the job description (pilot/MS) then step them up to a specific flight when that time comes. As I see it the astronaut to astronaut is informal word of mouth / anecdotal. The trainer to astronaut interface is heavily documented, scripted and more formal. sts205cdrTypically, a returning crew conducts a post-flight debriefing meeting with the rest of the astronaut corps, so this could be considered astronauts teaching other astronauts using their firsthand knowledge and experience.--JohnJohn CharlesThere are whole cadres of professional trainers at JSC, to educate the astronauts in spacecraft systems. (I remember Neil Armstrong thanking everyone involved with his Apollo 11 mission during a trans-Earth TV downlink, and his list ended with the army of trainers--but did not include any scientists.)But there are also experienced astronauts who are apparently certified as trainers. I recall Shannon Lucid commenting, during an STS-34 downlink, that John Fabian had trained her for RMS ops for their flight on STS 51-G, and then she trained Ellen Baker for their flight on STS-34, sort of a "circle-of-life" observation. I wondered then if she wasn't forgetting all the non-astronaut trainers...------------------John CharlesHouston, Texas[This message has been edited by John Charles (edited June 29, 2006).]quantumleapWhile I can appreciate that others can gain insight from the experiences of others who have been in space, just because they have experienced something however does not make them a good trainer/teacher.A lot of the trainers at JSC know more about the systems they train on than the astronauts. They also know how best to communicate and teach it as well. When I was on a behind the scenes tour of the Astronaut training floor one comment I heard was that some of the trainers/technicians on the full motion landing simulator had flown as many, if not more approaches than a lot of the astronauts.
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As I see it the astronaut to astronaut is informal word of mouth / anecdotal. The trainer to astronaut interface is heavily documented, scripted and more formal.
--John
But there are also experienced astronauts who are apparently certified as trainers. I recall Shannon Lucid commenting, during an STS-34 downlink, that John Fabian had trained her for RMS ops for their flight on STS 51-G, and then she trained Ellen Baker for their flight on STS-34, sort of a "circle-of-life" observation. I wondered then if she wasn't forgetting all the non-astronaut trainers...
------------------John CharlesHouston, Texas
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A lot of the trainers at JSC know more about the systems they train on than the astronauts. They also know how best to communicate and teach it as well. When I was on a behind the scenes tour of the Astronaut training floor one comment I heard was that some of the trainers/technicians on the full motion landing simulator had flown as many, if not more approaches than a lot of the astronauts.
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